Re: CHAT behove etc (was: Natlag: Middle English impersonal verbs)

Uh oh. You know I think I started the YAEPT. I'm going
respond to Mark personally.

--- "Mark J. Reed" <markjreed@...> wrote:

> Ray, shame on you, starting YAEPT!
>
> On 3/10/06, Elliott Lash <erelion12@...>
> wrote:
> > Ray wrote:
> >
> > > So I see. In most (all?) varieties of English
> the
> > > vowels in _does_ and
> > > _bother_ are different. And AFAIK the words
> _does_
> > > and _could_ only
> > > share the vowels in parts of north England.
> > >
> >
> > I believe I pronounce these two words with the
> same
> > vowel...and I'm from New York.
>
> There are always exceptions, but even if that's true
> in your idiolect,
> it's not the norm in New York.
>
> In GenAm,  "does" is something like [dVz] (same
> vowel as "luck") while
> "could" is [kUd] (with the same vowel as "look").
> Do you pronounce
> "luck" and "look" the same?  (Or other such pairs as
> buck/book,
> putt/put, etc.)
>
> AFAIK, having only read volume 1 of Wells' book, a
> /V/~/U/ merger
> (into something closer to [U] than to [V]) is
> typical of North Britain
> (Scotland and northern bits of England), rare
> elsewhere.
>
>
>
> --
> Mark J. Reed <markjreed@...>
>

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