Re: Schwa and [V]: Learning the IPA

On 6/14/06, Larry Sulky <larrysulky@...> wrote:
> I think I must have totally missed everybody's points.  I didn't
> realise that the existence of [V], [U], or [@] in at least some
> American English dialects was in question. I'm from the American west
> coast, with influences from the American midwest and Toronto, Ontario.
>
> I pronounce "but" and the "a" in "about" as [V].
My question is: how sure are you about that?  I used to think the same
thing.  But neither my /V/ nor my /@/ is what the IPA calls [V].  The
core of David's complaint is that Americans generally seem not to have
[V] there, although of course there must be those who do.

My realization that my /V/ is not IPA [@], either, is what started
this thread. :)

Do you have [O] in your 'lect, perhaps as the pronunciation of "law"
or the pre-rhotic part of the first syllable in "order"?  The IPA [V]
is that same vowel, just unrounded.  It doesn't exist in my 'lect, for
sure...

--
Mark J. Reed <markjreed@...>

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