Re: Schwa and [V]: Learning the IPA

R A Brown wrote:

> Tristan Alexander McLeay wrote:
>
>> On 16/06/06, R A Brown <ray@...> wrote:
>>
>>> Larry Sulky wrote:
>>> > On 6/15/06, R A Brown <ray@...> wrote:
>>
> [snip]
>
>>> > But I still think I disagree. If someone tells me that they'll [kVt]
>>> > something, I figure they'll use a  knife to do it. But if they say
>>> > they'll [k@t] something, I have no idea what they're talking about.
>>>
>>> Well, yes because you have [@] as a variant of /I/ in 'hobbit' - and
>>> possibly as an allophone of other unstressed vowels. I would understand
>>> [k@t] as 'curt'    :)
>>
>>
>> Really, even when short?
>
>
> Yes - length is not phonemic in this neck of the woods.
Hm, well, certainly in my dialect, /ir/ is pronounced [I:], which
contrasts with /I/.  Similarly /Er/ is [E:] and contrasts with /E/.  I
wouldn't interpret [k@t] as 'cut', though, of course.  I'd probably
understand it as 'kit'.

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