Re: Schwa and [V]: Learning the IPA

Quoting Roger Mills <rfmilly@...>:

> > >  > Herman Miller wrote:
> > >  >
> > >  >> It really depends on which IPA site you use for reference. This one
> > >  >>
> > >  >> http://wso.williams.edu/~jdowse/ipa.html
>
> Hi Ho. Of all the sites so far, this one most closely matches my speech
> EXCEPT for the central vowels and my [A].
>
> In the phrase I previously transcribed as [bi\t D@ 'bVt] "but the butt" --
> what I gave as [bi\t] would have their "reversed e"; my [D@] would have
> their @--OK; my [bVt] "butt" is closest to their [3], but a bit lower.
> Certainly not the [V] in any sample.
>
> So far I haven't found my "[A]" (rot, lot, pot) anywhere-- the [A] on all
> sites sounds too far back and a bit rounded; the [6] is close but not low or
> open enough IME; that IPA [a] doesn't exist in my dia/idiolect--unless I'm
> imitating JFK/RFK, peace be upon them.
In practice, [a] is often used for vowels intermediate between cardinal [a] and
[A], so it's probably the best notation for your /A/, then, unless you want to
be really precise and write [A_+] or something.

                                                     Andreas