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Re: USAGE: Weird dialectal stuff

From:DOUGLAS KOLLER <laokou@...>
Date:Tuesday, January 11, 2000, 0:36
Christophe Grandsire wrote:

> It makes me think of a strange feature of my spoken English
(second
> language of course). I happen to use constructions like "I didn't made" > instead of "I didn't make", that's to say I repeat the past on the > auxiliary and the main verb. I use that nearly only with my boyfriend (who > makes the same mistake by the way). My question is: does such a feature > happen in a dialect of English, somewhere in the world, or not at all? It > happened to me so naturally that I would be surprised if it didn't appear > anywhere in the world with first-language English speakers. > > Anyway, tell me what you know :) .
I haven't done an empirical study on this, but my experience with this kind of phenomenon has been exclusively with Romance speakers (à la: *"He must has been."). I've heard this sort of thing with French, Spanish, and Italian speakers of English, but not with Chinese, Japanese, or German speakers, and never with native speakers. Don't know what it all means. While I can understand where the mistake is coming from and the logic behind it, I am skeptical that native English speaker intuition would consider this construction "natural" (you yourself described it as "strange"), and would myself be surprised if native speakers anywhere (excluding, perhaps, those of pidgins or creoles) allowed it. Of course, I could be wrong. Those who know better, please elucidate. Enjoying being back on the list and now in Boston environs, I am Kou