At 5:41 pm +1300 24/2/99, Andrew Smith wrote:
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>It seems to me that Black Speech/Orkish is intended to be language that
>Tolkien found unattractive: lots of gutterals and back vowels, uvular R
>(which I'm trying to master for the code switching), consonant clusters
>like -sg that could have come from Irish.
Absolutely - and _all_ those very are *very* UNCockneyish!
> This doesn't mean another
>conlanger would find it an unattractive language,
Agreed.
>or consider Cockney to be an Orkish accent.
Well, anyone who thinks any of the above features make it remotely like
Cockney sure knows nothing about Cockney.
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>
>It still sounds more like troll to me; "'Ere, 'oo are yoo?" as in the
>Hobbit.
Trolls in "The Hobbit" - a very different matter. Until the finsal
chapters, "The Hobbit" belongs to a rather different genre than TLOTR, IMHO.
Ray.