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Re: *oy vey*

From:Maarten van Beek <dungeonmaster@...>
Date:Tuesday, April 9, 2002, 12:25
> Van: Danny Wier > > >Nederlands/Dutch is essntiallij a Low Germanic language with > that funkij < > > Or better yet, _vunkij_ since Dutch voices initial fricatives.
Wat een vlauwekul... I mean, flauwekul! Voiced and voiceless initial fricatives are phonemically distinct, as can be seen by looking at these minimal pairs in Dutch: fee (fairy) - vee (cattle) fel (fierce) - vel (skin) fries (frieze (on a building)) - vries (freeze) fors (sturdy) - vors (to reserach (1p sing, arch)) flakker (flicker, 1p sing.) - vlakker (more flat, comp.) fier (proud) - vier (four) faal (fail, 1p sing) - vaal (faded, pale) I voice all of those "v"'s and none of those "f"'s! And I can assure you, that no Dutch person mistakes a "veestapel" (livestock) for a "feestapel" (lit. 'a pile of fairies') ;-) Maarten

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