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Re: *oy vey*

From:Christophe Grandsire <christophe.grandsire@...>
Date:Friday, April 12, 2002, 14:15
En réponse à Jan van Steenbergen <ijzeren_jan@...>:

> > Theoretically, "f" is unvoiced, "w" is voiced, and "v" > is somewhere in the middle.
Rather, in Standard Dutch and Southern dialects, f is a voiceless labiodental fricative, v is a voiced labiodental fricative and w is a voiced labiodental *approximant*. Practically, the "v"
> usually merges with one of the other two. Like Dirk's > mother, my pronunciation is rather like /f/, since my > Dutch was spoiled by living 13 years in Amsterdam :) >
My Dutch is spoiled by the Brabants pronunciation of my friend :)) . Luckily, it's one of the softest you can find :)) .
> BTW, it's remarkable how many threads end up in a > discussion about the Dutch language :))) >
Indeed! As I said, it's seems to be fashionable currently :)) (or maybe the number of active members knowing Dutch in some way or another is quite high :)) ). Christophe. http://rainbow.conlang.free.fr Take your life as a movie: do not let anybody else play the leading role.

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