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Re: *oy vey*

From:Andreas Johansson <and_yo@...>
Date:Thursday, April 11, 2002, 19:38
Christophe Grandsire wrote:
>En réponse à Andreas Johansson <and_yo@...>: > > > > > That _vee_ is suspiciously similar to English "fee", which's Swedish > > cognate > > _fä_ means "livestock". Has Dutch been vary evil against labiodental > > fricatives during some period of it's history? > > > >In one word: no, but all other Germanic languages were :)) . Many English >words >beginning with "f" have a cognate in "v" in Dutch. In German the cognate is >also written with "v", but since in German "v" stands for /f/, it doesn't >count :)) . But the German orthography inclines me to say that what Dutch >did >was basically keeping voiced labiodentals where other languages devoiced >them :)) .
Are you sure about that? At any rate, German orthographic {v} is frequently from earlier *p, eg _Vater_ cognate of _father_ and Latin _pater_. German orthographic {w} used to be [w], like in English cognates (cf _Wasser_ vs English _water_). And isn't the Dutch cognate of _father_ _vader_? That initial "v" must be from common Germanic *f. Andreas _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com