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Re: Lukashenka (jara: Country names still needed)

From:Joe <joe@...>
Date:Wednesday, May 14, 2003, 20:06
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From: "Jan van Steenbergen" <ijzeren_jan@...>
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Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2003 8:28 PM
Subject: Re: Lukashenka (jara: Country names still needed)


> --- Andreas Johansson skrzypszy: > > > It's him. The modern, "official" Swedish transliteration would be
"Zjukov".
> > > > But surely the German transliteration must be "Schukow"? > > No, "Shukow" (IIRC). "Schukow" would be a transliteration of "S^ukov". The > problem with German is that it doesn't have the /Z/ phoneme, and that is
why
> "sh" was chosen as some sort of compromise. > > Another problem with German is that it pronounces _z_ like [ts]. Hence for > example "Jelzin". On the other hand, initial _s_ before a vowel is
pronounced
> [z], hence "Selkin" instead of "Zelkin". But what to do with initial [s],
then?
> How to distinguish between "Sacharov" and "Zacharov"? Well, sometimes
German
> uses double _s_ for [s]: Ssacharow. But often, some sort of compromise is
made
> with other transcriptions. >
Why not use |ß|? It's much more fun than |ss|...ßacharow.

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