Re: Mood names ...

James Landau wrote:
>In a message dated 1/20/2003 1:34:15 PM Pacific Standard Time,
>and_yo@HOTMAIL.COM writes:
>
>
> > Also, there's three moods I have no idea what I should call. They,
>roughly,
> > corresponds to English "ought to", "need to" and "must". The difference
> > between the two later is a bit blurry, but basically the former
>indicates
> > an
> > inner need of the subject, the later an outside compulsion. Eg _ta raig
> > koi_
> > "I must eat (because otherwise I starve)" vs _ta raig tsin_ "I must eat
> > (because someone forces me to)", _ta_ being the pronoun "I" and _raig_
> > present tense finite verb "eat(s)".
> >
>
>  For your "need to", we might say something like "necessitative" (to use
>the
>obvious choice). Your concept of "must" could be "coercive". "Deontic"
>might
>work for either "must" or "ought to", depending on exactly what the moods
>mean.
_Tsin_ implies some sort of (irresistible) outside pressure, _koi_ usually
an internal need to do something - it is rarely used with inanimates (except
for inanimates consisting of animates, like an organization). And example
with _gez_ parallel to the two above would be _Ta rag gez_ "I ought to eat
(because it would be good for [something])".

                                                Andreas

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