Re: Translation: Trolls and their Management

On 18 Jan, Gary Shannon wrote:

> --- Morgan Palaeo Associates
> <morganpalaeo@...> wrote:
> > Recent events over in afp involving a Usenet troll
> > have prompted
> > someone to ask for translations of "Do not feed the
> > troll" in various
> > languages. I offered to ask people here for Conlang
> > translations.
<snip>

> Thus angling metphors would be more appropriate than
> ugly-monsters-who-live-under-bridges metphors.
Good point!

I also was going to use the "ugly monster" metaphor.
But, in light of the fact that this translation exercise
has prompted me to add to the lang a prefix signifying causation,
a negative universal imperative, and even a new
rate of change marker, let alone new vocab, I feel
rather good, so what the heck --- I'll do it from
both metaphorical points of view!  :-)

In  rtemmu:
( g~ = [N], r` = [R], o` = [O] )

[ monster metaphor] :
( Don't cause to be fed, "danger which is developing
     in ugliness"  [ ie "troll, the monster"]!)

g~amlyaubelgr`vukinhe nkr` ndononflo`xalna!

g~am-lyau-belgr`v-ukin-he  nkr`   ndonon-flo`xa-lna!

g~am- = negative
lyau- = universal imperative (ie not addressed to
            a 2nd person, sing or plural, but to the
            universe at large)
belgr`v-  = cause to happen
                (made by combining two instrumentals:
                bel [done by tool] and gr`v [done by hand] )
nkr`  =  the following process (ndonon, in this case) is to be
            understood, objectively and/or subjectively
             under any and all rates of change

    (| nkr` |  is different from | wuh |, which signifies
an  _unknown_  rate of change. Also new are:
| kr` | = any and all objective rates of change, and
| nr` | = any and all subjective rates of change  )

ukin = the process of eating, thus | belgr`vukin |
             means "the process of causing to eat,
            the process of feeding something/someone"
-he = with respect to
ndonon = the process of danger
-flo`xa = developing in ugliness
-lna = one's true nature

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[fishing metaphor]:

Don't add fish to the net!

[If anybody's still with me ;-) ]:

g~amlyaubelgr`vvagavhe  nr`  gzago`gwuhbwuhb
    auag r`let  tikuhluh!

g~am-lyau-belgr`v-vagav-he  nr`  gzag-o`g-wuhbwuhb
    auag  r`let  tikuh-luh!

   Same vocab as above, except for:

nr` (Doing it in purely subjective mode. All
        subsequent processes are here considered
        to be changing with | nr` |, and so their
        rate-of-change markers have been deleted.)

vagav = process of addition
gzag = process of being a group;
               used in rtemmu to signify plurality
o`g = compounding particle
wuhbwuhb = process of being a fish
auag = asserts that what follows should cognitively
            be joined with the previous
r`let = the process of being a net
tikuh = the process of being single, singular (ie "one" )
-luh = definite article ( ie "the"; in rtemmu,
            articles are suffixed to numbers)



Dan Sulani
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