Re: Changing CXS (Was: Re: Representing tones in X-Sampa; Khmer phonemes (for Tim May))
|Date:||Thursday, January 29, 2004, 20:50|
Tristan McLeay scripsit:
> [r\`] already *is* the retroflex approximant.* In kosher X-SAMPA, [r`] is
> for whatever reason a retroflex tap or flap (i.e. retroflex ). Your
> proposal would involve (a) creating a new symbol [4`] for retroflex tap or
I agree that [4`] is a perfectly intelligible substitute for [r`],
and if anyone wants a retroflex trill, then a local distinction between
[4`] and [r`] is reasonable (labelled as such, naturally). But CXS and
X-SAMPA are intended to encode the IPA, and the IPA is not intended to
encode every possible speech sound, only the ones which make a phonemic
difference somewhere. If we use [r`] for the retroflex trill, what
shall we use for the palatal or pharyngeal ones?
> * But note that I've seen Americans using both [r`] and [r\] as shorthands
> for [r\`].
I write [r\] for my rhotic AmEng "r" not because it's shorter, but because
I do not pronounce this letter retroflex. Perhaps I should use [@_^`],
(non-syllabic rhotacized schwa) instead, but it's a lot less readable.
Ambassador Trentino: I've said enough. I'm a man of few words.
Rufus T. Firefly: I'm a man of one word: scram!
--_Duck Soup_ John Cowan <jcowan@...>