Re: Changing CXS (Was: Re: Representing tones in X-Sampa; Khmer phonemes (for Tim May))
|From:||Andreas Johansson <andjo@...>|
|Date:||Thursday, January 29, 2004, 22:02|
> Tristan McLeay scripsit:
> > [r\`] already *is* the retroflex approximant.* In kosher X-SAMPA, [r`] is
> > for whatever reason a retroflex tap or flap (i.e. retroflex ). Your
> > proposal would involve (a) creating a new symbol [4`] for retroflex tap or
> > flap
> I agree that [4`] is a perfectly intelligible substitute for [r`],
> and if anyone wants a retroflex trill,
> then a local distinction between
> [4`] and [r`] is reasonable (labelled as such, naturally). But CXS and
> X-SAMPA are intended to encode the IPA, and the IPA is not intended to
> encode every possible speech sound, only the ones which make a phonemic
> difference somewhere.
While distinguishing _every_ possible speech sound would be pretty much
possible, from the conlanging POV it's rather unfortunate that the IPA isn't
aiming more along such lines.
> If we use [r`] for the retroflex trill, what
> shall we use for the palatal or pharyngeal ones?
Kirshenbaumian <trl> would be a possibility. Ugly as an ugly thing on a bad
day, admitedly. _` as someone suggested could work too, but doesn't look much