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Re: Systematic Word Relationships (Was: Arabic and BACK and a whole lot of other things.)

From:Gary Shannon <fiziwig@...>
Date:Wednesday, December 21, 2005, 23:55
--- Jim Henry <jimhenry1973@...> wrote:

I've incorporated all of thes ideas, except the ones I
think might already be there. Notes interspersed
below.

--gary


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> Method, system, way of doing action: > > to fight -> martial art, fighting style > to program -> programming methodology >
I added this as an enumeration since there are more than one system or method. F. VERB To ENUMERATION. 1. VERB: Specific instances of a class of actions. a. to cut -> to slice; to chop; to hack; to pare; to prune; ... 2. NOUN: Specific action to category name of style of action a. to fight -> {Judo; Karate; boxing; fencing; ...} 3. ADJECTIVE: Specific action to style category of action. a. to sing -> {operatic; popular; country; ...} ====================================
> To produce, emit, give off NOUN > > e.g., milk > to breastfeed ? > sweat (n.) > sweat (v.)
also lava -> to erupt urine -> to urinate =====================================
> to get into NOUN, to put oneself into NOUN > (enlitigxi "to get in bed", etc.)
This seems to fit this group, I think: V. From PREPOSITION. A. PREPOSITION To VERB. 1. Action to result in the position. a. within -> to enter b. aboard -> to board ======================================
> To do what is typically done with NOUN > eye -> to see (Volapük actually does this: > log "eye" > logön "to see", ditto with > lil "ear" > lilön "to hear".)
I think that might fit here: A. NOUN To VERB. ... 4. Action performed with named object, part, tool, or implement. a. hammer -> to hammer; to pound b. saw -> to saw c. oven -> to bake d. container -> to contain e. eye -> to see =========================================
> > B. NOUN To NOUN. > > 2. General category of a specific
instance.
> > a. lake -> body-of-water > > b. ocean -> body-of-water > > c. hammer -> tool > > d. apple -> fruit > > This can have a mnemonic value, but is not
necessarily
> productive. If I use the general-category affix or > vowel-pattern or whatever on a root meaning "dog" > does it refer to all members of genus Canis, all > members of tribe Canini, all members of family > Canidae, or something even more general (mammals, > vertebrates, animals; domestic animals; quadrupeds)? > I use this kind of affix in gzb but word defined
with it
> must be memorized, since the level of generalization
is not
> obvious.
My intention was the very next level of abstraction, colloquially, so that apple->fruit as opposed to apple->mass-of-protons-and-electrons. =========================================
> Container for NOUN (Perhaps differentiated further, > e.g. Esperanto -uj and -ing)
B. NOUN To NOUN ... 10. Characteristic container. a. tool -> toolbox b. arrow -> quiver c. knife -> sheath d. gun -> holster ==========================================
> A member of the same group > E.g. Esperanto sam~ano, kun~anto patterns > samlandano, samcxambrano, samdomano, > samlingvano, kunludanto, kunlaboranto... > > A member of a different group > alilandano, etc.
I don't understand this one.

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Jim Henry <jimhenry1973@...>