Re: Plan B phonology (was Re: Another weird idea!)

Jörg Rhiemeier wrote:

>Hallo!
>
>R A Brown wrote:
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>
[snip]

>>Exactly so. And the fact that we have |f| = fOUGHt or Fought, but no
>>example of just plain 'short o' in the inventory, leads me to think it
>>is patently Merkan English  :)
>>
>>
>
>Yes.  Shows just how phonologically naïve the whole thing is.
>
>
I agree.

>But there are some neat ideas in it, e. g. applying Huffman coding
>to morphemes such that one can always tell how long the morpheme is
>by looking at its initial phonemes.
>
Oh yes, it is certainly an interesting article with some neat ideas.
Anyone contemplating a loglang should IMO read it.

> But the mapping of phonemes to phones stinks -
>
Yes, it is fairly obvious that Jeff was not interested in that aspect -
he just gave a somewhat rushed (IMO) & fairly naive way of giving
phonetic values to his strings of written consonants.

>but then, it is not really our business to
>complain (see the "Campaign for rational Klingon romanisation"
>thread).  It is much more of our business to do better.
>
>
Indeed so. I am working on it - but 'real life' keeps getting in the
way   :-)

[snip]

>>Exactly the same thought occurred to me yesterday! I began playing
>>around with a system whereby the epenthetic vowel was generated by the
>>least significant bit of the first consonant & the most significant bit
>>of the second one.  Umm - think I'll work on that one   :-)
>>
>>
>
>That's an interesting idea!
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Thanks - I must try to formalize this idea,
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>>I recall that Srikanth used numeric digits with dual pronunciations in
>>his Lin; but while, if they occurred between consonants they were all
>>pure vowels (no diphthongs as there are apparently with Plan B), when
>>they occur next to a vowel they are not consonants - as in Plan B &
>>Max's 'weird idea') - but determine both the length and the tone of the
>>adjacent vowel.   Weird    :)
>>
>>
>
>Aren't the phonetic values of Lin symbols a secondary representation
>of a telephathic language?
>
>
Yes, picked up, as i said, by a family living in the Chambal valley of
central India. On further investigation, I find that the Lynu, the
'speakers' of Lin, inhabit a planet in the Solar system Gleipskandhu in
the galaxy NGC0888, 101 000 light years far from from our own Milky Way.
See:
http://www.iiap.res.in/personnel/srik/conkind.html

But I discover also that in version 5.03 of Lin, Srikanth has abandoned
the dual pronunciation of the non-alphabetic characters ("cements") -
they now each have a single, invariable sound; see:
http://www.iiap.res.in/personnel/srik/phono.html

(I must update the links on my website)

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