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Re: Rubaga Phones

From:Christophe Grandsire <christophe.grandsire@...>
Date:Sunday, March 17, 2002, 2:23
En réponse à Jeff Jones <jeffsjones@...>:

> Hi all, > I have some tables of phonetic symbols ((I hope the columns line up)) > I'm using for my Rubaga description and am wondering if anyone would > care to provide X-SAMPA equivalents. >
X-SAMPA equivalents? No problem! The ones I don't give equivalents to are identical in X-SAMPA to what you gave. And I hope it will still be lining up with me :)) .
> Consonants: > | stop fricative nasal trill later. aprx. > | VL Vd VL Vd Vd VL Vd Vd Vd > ----------------+------------------------------------------ > bilabial | p b PW m w
p\_w /w/ is normally a labiovelar approximant. You're sure that what you mean is purely bilabial? (I ask that because you also have a labiovelar row, where /w/ would fit better)
> labiodental | f v > labiodent.+pal. | fJ vJ
f_j v_j Quite simple. Your W is X-SAMPA _w, and your J is X-SAMPA _j :)) .
> apicodental | t d T D n l > apicodent.+lab. | TW DW
T_w D_w
> alveolar | s z (r) > retroflex | R
r` There's nothing like a retroflex trill in IPA (and I can't see how to mark it). I replaced it here by the tap.
> palatoalveolar | S Z > palatovelar or > palatal | c gJ C GJ nJ (lJ) j
J\ j\ J L
> velar | k g x G N > labiovelar | kW gW xW GW NW (LW)
k_w g_w x_w G_w N_w L\_w
> uvular | X Q
R\_0 R\ I rendered your voiceless uvular trill with the voiced one and the sign for voicelessness.
> glottal | h > labioglottal | (hW)
h_w
> > Also, what's the proper form of the affricates [tS] and [dZ] (the t > and > d in these are alveolar). >
[t_S] and [d_Z] (_ renders the tie bar, but is also used for diacritics in X- SAMPA).
> Vowels: > | unrounded rounded > | front central back > ---------+--------------------------- > close | i u > closemid | I U > mid | e @ o > openmid | E V O > open | a >
[I] and [U] are not close-mid (that's [e] and [o]), they are close lax. The only mid vowel is the schwa [@]. Also, [a] is not really central but front (unless you mean [6], which is near open central unrounded, or inverted a in IPA. You can also centralise [a], but then you have to use the centralise diacritic - the umlaut - which makes in X-SAMPA [a_"]) and [V], if you mean the vowel in "but" (inverted v in IPA) is the unrounded equivalent of [O]. Apart from that, you're using X-SAMPA for the vowels already :)) . Christophe. http://rainbow.conlang.free.fr Take your life as a movie: do not let anybody else play the leading role.