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Re: Naming the conlang

From:Benct Philip Jonsson <bpj@...>
Date:Friday, July 9, 2004, 17:19
At 10:25 7/9/2004, John Cowan wrote:


>The general principle is that names for Romance languages derived from "Roman" >or "Latin" only exist when the language is surrounded by other non-Romance >languages (examples: Romanian, Rumantsh, Ladin, Ladino). Romance languages >surrounded by other Romance languages need unique names, since "Roman" and >"Latin" could be applied to them all.
The con-exception is Slvanjec. The Slvany originally referred to themselves as _Rumany_ and their language as _Rumanjec_, but then two factors weighed in for a change of practice: in the 16th century _Rumany_ came to mean 'Catholic' as opposed to Orthodox or protestants. Before then there had only been Rumany who were all catholics, Magyars who were also catholics and Rusyns who were all orthodox. Now there was suddenly a third religious affiliation which cut across the traditional ethnic barriers. Then there was also the Roma. Although the Slevans referred to them as _Cygany_ the similarity between the self-designations of the two peoples became troublesome. All this lead to the use of _Slvanjany_ i.e. as an abbreviation of ROMANI SILVANIANI. The term _Slván_ was suggested by Pavel Mrác in the 19th century and caught on because the independence movement adopted it. Incidentally Mrác was also opposed of the use of the term _labín_ 'white' to distinguish Slevans from Roma. BTW the mere fact of Slvanjec and Wenedyk being contiguous with each other might be enough to make them have names not derived from ROMANU or LATINU. /BP 8^) -- B.Philip Jonsson mailto:melrochX@melroch.se (delete X) Solitudinem faciunt pacem appellant! (Tacitus)