Re: water (was:re:sounds like...)

 Matt tence:

> Because water-the-substance plays a crucial role in Tokana metaphysics,
> and by extension, in Tokana metaphor.  According to the Tokana, fire
> and water are the two 'elemental forces' of the universe, which combine
> to create all forms of matter and energy.  These forces are each associated
> with various 'changes' or 'turnings' ("mislapi")  within the mind/body.
> Fire is associated to 'warm' or 'active' changes (physical exertion,
> strength, libido, mental concentration, etc.), while water is associated
> with 'cool' or  'passive' changes (mental and physical relaxation,
> spiritual contemplation, sleep and dreaming, meditation, etc.).  For
> this reason, I need a term for water-the-substance which can carry these
> various associations.  (Coopting one of the other terms wouldn't work,
> since cool/passive changes can be associated both with 'wild water'
> and with 'tame water'.)
    This is almost exactly the same thing that occurs in Aelya. The
concept, called nenthan (water-fire) pairs the same two "elements, which
occur over and over again in Celic mythology, the Tobar Teine, or Well of
Fire, being a noticable example. Water (nen) in both our systems could be
compared to yin, and fire (tan in aelya) to yang.


     Clinton