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Re: "real" names in Chevraqis

From:Carlos Thompson <carlos_thompson@...>
Date:Saturday, October 14, 2000, 16:01
Yown Ha Ley wrote:
>
> I felt bored and wanted to mangle-ate names....
[...] Well, in Chleweyish orthography is usually preserved if originally Roman, unless the word has been asimilated. The same principle applies to Tokcir (aka NGL).
> Yune Kyung Lee (my sister) = Yun Kiyan Ri (or I, or Li in Avren
Chevraqis) chleweye: Yun Kiúnh Ley [j\un ki'uN li:] tokcir: Yun Kiùn Li [jun ki'un li] -- note that [j\] is a fricative [j].
> Yoon Ha Lee = Yun Ha Ri (or I, or Li in Avren Chevraqis)
chleweye: Yown Ha Ley [j\u:n ha li:] tokcir: Yun Ha Li [jun ha li]
> Christophe Grandsire = Kristov Qranusir
chleweye: Cristóf Gransír [k4is't_hof g4an'si:r\] tokcir: Kuristòf Guransìr [kuris'tof guran'sir] -- note that [r] is trilled, [4] is flapped and [r\] is aproximant.
> Sally Caves = Sari (or Sali in Avren) Kaévis
chleweye: Salli Keves ['sal:I 'k_he:v@s] tokcir: Sali Keyves ['sali 'kejves]
> Dan Sulani = Dan Surani (or Sulani)
chleweye: Dan Sulani [dan 'su:lanI], or Dan Suláni [dan sU'lA:nI] tokcir: Dan Sulani [dan sulani], put a grave accent where stress falls if not initial.
> Dan Seriff = Dan Seriv
chleweye: Dan Seríff [dan s@ '4if:] tokcir: Dan Serìf [dan se'rif]
> Dirk Elzinga = Diruk Eruzika, Eruzinuka
chleweye: Derk Elsínga [der\k @l'ziNg@] tokcir: Dek Elsìnga ['dek el'siNga]
> Taliesin = Taraíesin (um, assuming Taliesin is pronounced something
like
> tuh-lie-eh-sin, which I bet it ain't)
chleweye: Taliesin ['t_hA:lj@zIn] tokcir: Taliesin ['taliesin]
> Marcus Smith = Marukus Simitu
chleweye: Marcus Smit ['mAr\kUs: mit] tokcir: Markus Esmìt ['markus es'mit]
> Jonathan Chang = Janatan Chanuku
chleweye: Jonatan Cyanh ['j\o:n@t@n cCaN] tokcir: Janatan Can ['dZanatan tSan]
> Nicole Perrin = Nikor (or Nikol) Berin
chleweye: Nicól Perrin [ni'k_ho:l 'p_hEr:In] tokcir: Nikòl Perin [ni'kol 'perin]
> Apologies to those who were included and didn't want to be, and
those who
> weren't included and might've wanted to have been. (Teoh, I can't
even
> guess how your name is pronounced....)
H.S.Teoh (Teoh Hueh Cheng?) chleweye: Teyo Hue Cyenh [t_hi:jO hu:@ cCeN] tokcir: Tio' Hue' Cen ['tio? 'hue? tSen] Daniel Andreasson chleweye: Daniel Andréason ['dA:njel @n'd4e:@son] tokcir: Daniel Anrèason ['daniel an'reason] Herman Miller chleweye: Cherrman Miller ['hEr:m@n 'mil:@r\] or Cherrman ['xEr:m@n]? tokcir: Herman Miler ['herman 'miler] Roger Mills chleweye: Roger Mils ['ro:dZ@r\ milz] tokcir: Roja Milsa ['rodZa milsa] Carlos Thompson chleweye: Carlos Thompson ['kA:l,os 't_hOm:son], well, you can write Tomson as well. tokcir: Karlos Tomson ['karlos 'tomson] also: Chlewey Thompin: chleweye: Chlewey Thompin ['xlju:i 't_hOmpIn] tokcir: Celyùwi Tompin [tSel'juwi 'tompin], note that "Chlewey" has been translated, or it would be _Ehliùwi_ [exli'uwi] (<h> in tokcir is either /h/ or /x/).