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Re: The man who removes a mountain begins by carrying away small stones.

From:Carsten Becker <naranoieati@...>
Date:Wednesday, August 11, 2004, 15:29
Hello!

Trebor Jung:

> "The man who removes a mountain begins by carrying away > small stones."
(Classical) Ayeri: Sorry, I haven't made up enough words for that yet. The sentence is also very hard to translate regarding morphology. I must think about it. The relative clause "the man who removes a mountain" is simple: "Ayonang siang me{mountain}in le {remove}iyà". But what about "begins by/with carrying away small stones"? I'd understand this phrase as some kind of an instrumental maybe, but then the whole phrase would have to be marked for that. The two verbs in this sentence are somehow disturbing. Wait, isn't this construction called a "raising verb"? Or was it an "equi verb"? Something evil in every case. I wish I had Comrie's "Major Languages of the World" to get some inspiration ... While reading other people's answers, John Leland gave me the idea to really use "go" in the other sense that I recently defined for Ayeri: "adposition for indicating movements away from s.o. or s.th.", 'manga sara' ("manga" is for indicating movement). OTOH, this still does not help me very much with sensibly translating the structure of the sentence :-( Sorry, I must give up here at the moment. I must think about those confusing verbs that need a verb in the gerund as argument, however they're called. German btw does this with a so-called "erweiterter Infinitiv mit 'zu'": Der Mann, der einen Berg versetzt, fängt damit an, kleine Steine abzutragen. ART(m) man, REL(m, NOM) indef_art(ACC) mountain remove.3sg, begin.3sg some_demonstrative_pronoun CIRC(begin), small(n) stone.pl remove-extended_infinitive-INF. Wordly: The man, who a mountain replaces, gins therewith be, small stones re-to-move. Carsten