Re: Sibilants (was: Re: 'out-' affix in conlangs?)

Indeed, many German learners around me are unable to get <ich> pronounced
correctly, and end up sounding like they're saying "isch". Which
pronunciation they probably adopted to ease the transition between being
unable to pronounce the sound and doing it like the natives.

Eugene

On Fri, Aug 15, 2008 at 8:43 AM, Jim Henry <jimhenry1973@...> wrote:

> On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 10:10 AM, John Vertical
> <johnvertical@...> wrote:
>
> > I've seen even [C] called a sibilant, but I can't really consider it
> such; it's
> > basically [x_+] and [x] sure isn't sibilant in any sense. If there is a
> velar
> > sibilant it's probably one of the realizations of the Swedish /x\/. (One
> of my
> > first sketchlangs had this sound in voiced, voiceless and affricate
> forms...)
>
> [C] to me neither sounds nor feels anything like [x]; I was surprised
> when I learned that they're allophones in German.  To me
> [C] sounds a lot like [S] and a bit like [s`]
>
> --
> Jim Henry
> http://www.pobox.com/~jimhenry/conlang/fluency-survey.html<
> Conlang fluency survey -- there's still time to participate before
> I analyze the results and write the article
>

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