Re: Sibilants (was: Re: 'out-' affix in conlangs?)

ROGER MILLS skrev:
> Eugene Oh wrote:
>> Indeed, many German learners around me are unable to get <ich> pronounced
>> correctly, and end up sounding like they're saying "isch". Which
>> pronunciation they probably adopted to ease the transition between being
>> unable to pronounce the sound and doing it like the natives.
>>
> Not to start YAGPT... but it's been my imperfect understanding that [IS]
> for "ich" is typical of Berlin accent (or is it Vienna???)  (I have an
> old LP of Lotte Lenya singing songs of Brecht/Weill, and I'm pretty sure
> she says [IS], of course, it might be the quality of the
> recording........)  Still, it doesn't excuse learners'
> mishearings/mistakes :-))))
>
I suspect that the Low German dialect which formed the
substrate of the "High" German Berlin dialect lacked [C].