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Re: Romaji as syllabary

From:Jeffrey Jones <jsjonesmiami@...>
Date:Sunday, February 27, 2005, 18:24
On Fri, 25 Feb 2005 07:30:48 +0000, Ray Brown <ray.brown@...> wrote:
> >On Thursday, February 24, 2005, at 02:47 , Jeffrey Jones wrote: >> >> On Wed, 16 Feb 2005 12:27:35 -0500, Paul Bennett <paul-bennett@...> >> wrote: >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Ph. D." <phild@...> >>> >>>> I think he meant it as a syllabary for a conlang. >>>> >>>> See the auxlang BABM, >>> >>> And, of course, Ray Brown's briefscripts. > > Yes, you do well to have briefscripts plural :) > > If you have read the latest published version on my website, it looks as > tho I have at last decided on a definite solution. but i am currently > working on the morphology, and I am realizing there are some weakness in > the scheme I suggested for Bax (I've also noticed some typos :)
What weaknesses specifically? I took a quick look a couple days ago. None of the typos I saw seemed critical. I'm not sure I like the phonetic rules for Bax, though the scheme looks OK otherwise. I had to guess at some of the characters. My browser does handle Unicode and most IPA, if told to do so, but what it _doesn't_ handle is hex values.
> So keep watching. > > BTW I also refer on on the page on Roman letters used as a syllabary, to > one suggested by Dirk Elzinga way back in 1999.
I had forgotten that.
>>> Paul >> >> I also use the alphabet as syllabary, in 'Yemls: >> >> Syllabary to Romanization: >> {A} ga, go > [etc - snipped] > >> {Z} za, zo >> {z} zu, zw, z >> >> The romanization is more or less phonemic, with |y| = /j/, |q| = /Z/, |x| >> = >> /S/, |c| = /tS/, |j| = /dZ/, |h| = /x/. > > Interesting - of course using upper case as well as lower case gives more > scope. So far I have resisted using mixed case systems as one of the ideas > behind a briefscript is that it should be quick to write. having to keep > using the shift key will slow things down a bit. I have often wondered, > however, if the digit symbols could be included. If they were pronounced > as single syllables it would not seem inappropriate. The modern practice > of text-messaging seems to indicate that people do not feel the mix of > alphanumeric symbols to be incongruous - in fact it seems gr8.
Having to use the shift key _does_ slow things down. That's OK for an artlang such as 'Yemls, but not for a briefscript. The only problem I see with using digits is that on some non-English keyboards, shift is required (according to a handy MS-DOS reference). The location of other characters varies even more. All this could be fixed with software, but (a) the software might not be installed on a given computer, and (b) the user would have to learn to touchtype according to the briefscript keyboard layout to avoid getting confused. That's probably why I haven't made a serious attempt to make my own briefscript. Jeff
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Ray Brown <ray.brown@...>