Re: Fourth Persons

On Wed, Sep 3, 2008 at 2:01 PM, Eldin Raigmore <eldin_raigmore@...> wrote:
> Logophoric Pronouns are so named because in certain African languages when
> you are reporting speech, you have two extra third-person pronouns, one for
> the person whose speech you are reporting ("logophoric first person"), and one
> for the person who was originally addressed ("logophoric second person").
Okiakiar has the extra-third-person variety of pronouns, though I
never considered them to be "fourth person".  They're just a means of
getting some distinction between multiple 3p antecedents when the
pronouns are genderless. I translate them in root lists as "he/she/it
1" (/kal/), "he/she/it 2" (/k@ral/), and "he/she/it 3" (/k@zal/).
(While there's clearly a pattern there,  it's not productive; there
aren't any pronouns past #3.)

But the logophoric pronoun idea is new to me.  I like it.  (Yoink!)

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Mark J. Reed <markjreed@...>

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