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Re: USAGE: THEORY/USAGE: irregular English plurals (was: RE:

From:And Rosta <a-rosta@...>
Date:Wednesday, May 22, 2002, 22:18
John Cowan:
> And Rosta scripsit: > > As you probably realized after sending that message, analysing these > > putative bare plurals as mass singulars runs into difficulties with > > "The lion are scarce today", etc. > > Ungrammatical for me. > > > You cannot even resort to treating them as analogous to collectives > > like "The team have been playing well", because whereas "team" is > > singular but triggering plural agreement > > Not for Merkins: "The team has been playing well" is the only thing > that works. Fowler wanted us to say "The jury is agreed" but "The > jury are disagreed", but I think no one follows him in this.
It's a well-known American/Non-American difference. Is it totally out in your dialect, or merely more marked?
> > "These lion were tracked down yesterday". > > I still can't swallow it.
Can you say "The buffalo are scarce today", "These buffalo were tracked down yesterday"? How about "antelope"? "Wildebeeste"? --And.

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Nik Taylor <fortytwo@...>
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