Re: CHAT: Sakatda Ka Kadomo (was: CHAT: Anglicisms)

(1) Taga bondoks are from the boondocks?  Coincidence?

(2) PELLET INSERTION????  Perhaps a conculture issue, but I'm
curious!


Ed Heil ------ edheil@postmark.net
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Kristian Jensen wrote:

> Barry Garcia wrote:
>
> >kljensen@image.dk writes:
> >>What's the conculture like? I'm imagining a tiny group of isolated
> >>negritos in Luzon's Sierra Madre just east of Manila (therefore
> >>the numerous Tagalog loanwords).
> >
> >I'm still trying to come up with one. But i will consider maybe
> >making the people negritos. Then again, maybe they could be a group
> >of Tagalogs who got isolated in the sierra Madre, and their
> >language changed and diverged. Possibly they married into a tribe
> >that was using a language isolate (Which would explain the non-
> >Tagalog words I put into the conlang). Anyway i still have all of
> >summer to come up with something. I think this is also an
> >opportunity to show off my drawing skills =).
>
> Old documents from colonial times notes that the people in and
> around Laguna had two names for themselves depending on where they
> lived and the two dialectal divisions at the time. The "Taga Ilog"
> were the tagalog speakers living in the lowland regions ("taga ilog"
> meaning "from the river"). The other tagalog group living in the
> Sierra Madres and called themselves "Taga bondok" ("from the
> mountains"). The Taga-bondoks were a bit different culturally from
> the Taga-ilogs even though they spoke a closely related dialect (if
> not the same language). For instance, the Taga-bondoks practiced
> pellet insertion in their penis (a practice that is related to the
> Visayans) which the Taga-ilogs did not. Nowadays, all the people in
> the region are called "Tagalog", a contraction of "Taga ilog".
>
> From this, you could have a scenario where the speakers of Sakatda
> Ka Kadomo are perhaps remnants of taga-bondoks. Or maybe a negrito
> tribe that had an "ahibay" (patron) relationship with the
> Taga-bondoks in ancient times. Such relationships are normal among
> negrito tribes. There is even a theory that states that the negritos
> speak 'creolized Austronesian' because of such beneficial
> relationships and since all the negrito tribes today basically speak
> an Austronesian language with a few non-Austronesian terms.
>
> Just a thought...
>
> -kristian- 8)
>