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Re: ergative? I don't know...

From:David G. Durand <dgd@...>
Date:Saturday, October 24, 1998, 3:40
> >Could you please comment the attempts of certain conlangs like All-Nouns >to create an agentive from instruments ?
I think such projects are fascinating, in part because they don't seem to follow the patterns of naturally evolved human lanaguages. As time goes by, I find myself more inclined to believe that people may be capable of learning languages different in kind from any that we know: I suspect our language universals may reflect historical trends in language evolution -- had the indonesian-style trigger languages become extinct, no one would find that system "natural" or even plausible for humans to speak. But because we have the example, we know that it's not unnaural. I don't believe that we could learn _any_ rule-based communication system, as our computational hardware clearly has significant limitations. My exposition was directed at "naturalistic" conlangers, who want "plausibly human, yet unique" language structures. I tend to mostly invent such languages for conlanging, since I get enough "unnatural" linguistic input in my capacity as a computer scientist. In other words, I was just regurgitating my partially digested take on typical argument marking systems as absorbed from a number of books on typological linguistics. I tend to think that going from nouns to verbs is semantically a bit harder, but I'm not very attached to that opinion. In general, I don't think we have the evidence to answer any of those kinds of questions. In fact, since there are so many different logical systems that one might construct as underpinnings for the experiments, I'm not sure that we can even frame the questions in a meaningful way. -- David _________________________________________ David Durand dgd@cs.bu.edu \ david@dynamicDiagrams.com Boston University Computer Science \ Sr. Analyst http://www.cs.bu.edu/students/grads/dgd/ \ Dynamic Diagrams --------------------------------------------\ http://www.dynamicDiagrams.com/ MAPA: mapping for the WWW \__________________________