Re: Trans: Shoeflower Nose Man (Vyh)
| From: | Christophe Grandsire <christophe.grandsire@...> |
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| Date: | Wednesday, October 31, 2001, 12:19 |
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En réponse à Jeff Jones <jeffsjones@...>:
> If I find the person who lifted my trees,
> I'm going to make him sing his quiet words using his torch.
>
:)) I like the nonsense of this sentence :) .
[snip translation]
Interesting, a or... or construction for if... then.
>
> Notes:
> 1. If aspect is omitted, it is either progressive (for "verbs) or
> stative (for "adjectives" and "nouns").
> 2. If mood/tense is omitted, it is general (no specific time) and
> indicative/relative
> 3. If grammatical voice is omitted, it is passive
>
Passive? According to what I've read, it's more like an ergative construction.
> Vowel Phones
> | front back
> ----------+-------------------------
> high | [i] [u]
> mid-high | [I] [U]
> |
> mid-low | [E] [O]
> low | [&] [A]
>
> Note that even though symbols normally indicating rounded vowels
> are
> used, the vowels here are not necessarily rounded.
>
If it's phonemes you're describing, they have to be in slashes //. If it's
phones, than [u], [U] and [O] are necessarily rounded, since they are what they
represent. Phonemes describe the constrative segments of the spoken language.
Phones describe the actual physical interpretation of them, so if you use
rounded vowels to describe phones, it means that those phones are rounded. You
have to use their unrounded equivalents to describe unrounded phones (note that
U doesn't have an unrounded equivalent in IPA).
> Consonant Phones
> | stop affricate fricative nasal lateral
> Approx.
> | Vl. Vd. Vl. Vd. Vl. Vd. Vd. Vd.
>
> --------------+-----------------------------------------------------
> bilabial | [p] [b] [m] [w]
> labiodental | [f] [v]
> dental ** | [t]* [d] [n] [l]
> alveolar | [s] [z]
> retroflex | [r]
> palatoalveolar| [tS]* [dZ] [S] [Z] [J]
> palatal | [j]
> palatovelar | [c]* [y] [C]
> velar | [k]* [g] [x] [G] [N]
>
> * The phones [t], [tS], [c], and [k] are aspirated.
Then again, if you're describing phones, you have to write them [t_h], [t_S_h],
[c_h] and [k_h]. You're not obliged to do so if you're describing phonemes
(since phonemes contain only the contrastive features, and there's no
unaspirated /t/ to contrast with your aspirated /t_h/).
Christophe.
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