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Re: Uusisuom language (Online lesson)

From:Daniel44 <daniel44@...>
Date:Thursday, March 29, 2001, 21:37
Uusisuom's influences are Finnish and Lithuanian. I know very little Russian
anyway.

I really do believe Uusisuom would make a great international language
because it really is extremely neutral. It is a unique and special language
and I thank all members of this list who have voiced their support for it so
far.

Daniel
daniel44@btinternet.com


----- Original Message -----
From: "Raymond Brown" <ray.brown@...>
To: <CONLANG@...>
Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2001 7:16 AM
Subject: Re: Uusisuom language (Online lesson)


> At 6:53 pm +0100 28/3/01, Daniel44 wrote: > >Raymond, > > > >Thank you for your kind words of support for the Uusisuom language. > > > >I have used these three languages (Finnish, Lithuanian, Russian) as my
main
> >influences because they are languages I have some knowledge of. > > That's a good reason if you're just constructing a language for your own > pleasure and/or the pleasures of others - what's commonly called an > "artlang" on this list. > > >I also > >believe that they are good models for different reasons. Finnish is
arguably
> >the most beautiful natural language in the world, > > I happen to agree - and so, apparently, did JRR Tolkien of Quenya & > Sindarin fame. > > >Russian is spoken by > >hundreds of millions of people the world over, from Eastern Europe to the > >tip of Alaska > > Yes - but why? It was taken thither by the Tsarist armies and continued
to
> be used over this vast area in the old Soviet Union. To many it is, alas, > too much identified with a language of imperialism. > > If Uusisuom is to have any appeal for the international use that you would > like it to have, I would suggest forgetting the Russian influence (or at > least, minimizing it). > > >and Lithuanian has wonderful grammatical forms. Lithuanian is > >also highly prized among language scholars for its link to Sanskrit in
India
> >dating back thousands of years. > > Very true - and, again, a perfectly good reason to use it in the > construction of an artlang. > > >Finnish and Lithuanian have to be among the > >oldest living languages still in modern use in Europe. > > But young, maybe, compared with Basque :) > > Now a blend of Finnish, Lithuanian & Basque could really make an excellent > artlang! And if you pushed it as an international medium it could > certainly claim neutrality. > > [snip] > > > >Pronouns are distinct from verb endings, though related for ease of > >learning. Again, though perhaps not common in auxiliary languages, verb > >endings are common in many natural languages. > > True. > > >I understand your point about the numbers, though people DO distinguish > >between thirteen and thirty. It's a question of how well the speaker > >pronounces. > > It is also effected by interference between speaker & listener, no matter > how clear the speaker is. The fact that 13 & 30 not infrequently have to > be repeated to make communication clear is testimony to this. > > >Again, my main priority is ease of learning. > > Well, from that point of view, I would think the modern Welsh system
(apart
> from the occasional initial consonant mutation) is even easier: > > 1 un > 2 dau > 3 tri > 4 pedwar > 5 pump [_pum_ before a noun] > 6 chwech [_chwe_ before a noun] > 7 saith > 8 wyth > 9 naw > 10 deg > > 11 un deg un > 12 un deg dau > 13 un deg tri > 14 un deg pedwar > etc > > 20 dau ddeg ['soft mutation' after _dau_] > 21 dau ddeg un > 22 dau ddeg dau > 23 dau ddeg tri > etc > > 30 tri deg > 40 pedwar deg > 50 pum deg > 60 chwe deg > 70 saith deg > 80 wyth deg > 90 naw deg > 100 cant > > Ray. > > ========================================= > A mind which thinks at its own expense > will always interfere with language. > [J.G. Hamann 1760] > ========================================= >

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