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Re: Name mangling (Was: Re: First Sound Recording of Asha'ille!)

From:Christian Thalmann <cinga@...>
Date:Wednesday, March 9, 2005, 14:52
--- In, Andreas Johansson <andjo@F...> wrote:

> The _ñ_ has been in all along. I'm not terribly happy with it either
- it's the
> only diacritic'd letter, for a start - but the realistic alternative
is using
> 'k' or 'q' for [N], either of which seems overly perverse to me, not
to speak
> of 'kh' or 'qh' for [G~], or, horror of horrors, 'kc' or 'qc' for [Nk].
There's always 'ng'. Not the prettiest of sights, but way preferable over 'ñ' IMHO. [Nk] can just be written 'nc'. Even in Oro Mpaa, where everything else is extremely regular (albeit weirdly so), I write [Ng] as |nc| rather than |gc|.
> I kind of like the nasal frics. They give rise to some very neat
alterations. :) I'm not even sure I can pronounce them. I think I end up with [to~G] instead.
> What did you think of the introduction of [h]? I must say I'm rather
proud of
> alterations like _tash_ [tah] ~ _tans_ [tans].
I love syllable-final aitches... Hombraian is full of them. :) I must have missed that introduction, though. I haven't been following the list closely lately. So is tash the new way to say tans, or a dialectal variant?
> Your name, BTW, would most straightforwardly be adapted as
Cris-Tiean Tal-Man
> [kris.tSi.jan] or Cris-Tean [kris.tSan]. In normal usage,
the hyphens
> would be dropped, of course. In fact, I've not yet decided whether a > hyphen-equivalent is used at all in the native script.
The former, although less fluent, is preferable. I tend to give my name as /'kris.ti.@n/ in English, since I'm not fond of being homonymous with a religious term. Most of the time I'm /kris/ anyway.
> Incidentally, I'm considering making [G~] > [Z~] before front
vowels. Would make
> sense, since [G] > [Z] in the same position.
I adore [Z], so I ain't complaining. ;) Still, I'm rather wary of those nasal frics. They are certainly original and worth experimenting with, but do you really have to test your new chemicals in a crystal chalice? :\ -- Christian Thalmann


Joe <joe@...>
Andreas Johansson <andjo@...>