Re: Accusative, Dative, ?

> What's "Jurative"? When do you use it? Could you perhaps give an example?
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> Daniel Andreasson
You can think of any number of natlang verbs which have a direct and an
indirect object, for instance "I gave IT to THEM".  Or "I went to THE BEACH
with THEM".  Well, Arov=EBn allows up to three such patients for any given
semantic word, all of which may be used as verbs, or as nouns, etc.
"Jurative", otherwise known simply as "3rd object" is just slot number thre=
e
in this system, and is not used often.  Take for instance the word "v=EBg",
which indicates a schematic drawing, a map or a plan:
  Subject: the (physical) map
  Object 1: the thing being mapped (for instance, a city)
  Object 2: the focal point of the map -- what it is which the map is
            meant to pick out and display (for instance, the streets of the
            city)
  Object 3: purpose of the map
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Vrindorem v=EBgyavet doven wr kent=EBad.
travel-abs.-3rd map-was-it city-1st 2nd streets-coll.
It was a travellers' map of the streets of a city.
  (rather verbose; to say "Kenterv=EBgyavet." would suffice).

No sweeping generalizations can be made about any of the three object-cases=
;
their function depends upon the particular semantic word.  However they may
be grouped into so-called "valency groups" which I explained to someone
earlier today:

> Actually, Danove"n has such a thing as "valency groups" which bind semant=
ic
> words of similar structure together.  For instance, the following=20
specifications
> define a certain valency group:
>   * t3, continuous movement of o0 at o3 from o1 to o2
>   0: ennad (that is, a physical thing)
>   1: end point
>   2: starting point
>   3: current position
> This is a simplified version of the basic "movement" valency class -- the
> words for "move", "travel", "shift", etc. are all in this class.  Another
> related class has to do with the medium being moved through.  "Fly", "mov=
e
> through water", "tunnel", etc. are in this class.  Etc. etc.  This makes
> keeping track of which objects do what in Danove"n a lot simpler.
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Josh

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