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Re: A break in the evils of English (or, Sturnan is beautiful)

From:Christian Thalmann <cinga@...>
Date:Sunday, April 28, 2002, 22:13
--- In conlang@y..., Christophe Grandsire <christophe.grandsire@F...> wrote:

> The only thing I see is that you cannot find an example proving your point, > while I can find at least one proving mine. Even with a 1-0 score I win! ;))
It's French against Ancient Greek, Irish, and common sense. Your score counting technique is selective indeed. =P
> This > > is > > because |ei| includes |i|, which symbolizes a high vowel. To make |ei| > > be > > a *lower* vowel than |e| is very counterintuitive. > > > > To you maybe, not to me.
To him and everyone else who isn't biased by the unfathomable peculiarities of the French language. Even you yourself mentioned that /ej/ in American English is beginning to turn into /e/. So an evolution of the digraph |ei| from /ej/ to /e/ must be plausible even to you.
> > > > Of course, by "nearly everyone" you mean "Frenchies." For the rest of > > the > > world, I think you're wrong, for the reasons outlined above. > > > > And I think you are wrong, because people don't use logic to guess the > pronunciation of a spelling. I don't think *anyone* would ever naturally > connect |ei| to [e]. To [ei], [ej], [Ej], [eI], [E] for those who would assume > it's French, but never to [e].
I would naturally connect it to [e], among other things, but not [E]. That counterproves your theory. =D All in all, I would suggest we stop this discussion and agree to disagree on this matter. Our discussion has been about as productive as discussing religion with the Taliban. =P -- Christian Thalmann

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