Re: CHAT: "*** you" (was Re: closet conlanging)

Eric Christopherson wrote:
> I've often wondered, what is the story with the phrases "bugger you"
> and the more common American "f*ck you" (If you don't know it, you'll
> have to guess the vowel ;) ). They don't seem grammatically correct as
> commands;
Perhaps based on other curses like "damn you"?  Or maybe its simply a
survival of earlier times when the "you" frequently came *after* the
imperative (as in "believe you me" = "believe me"), that is, "you f***
[someone]"?