Re: OT: Semi-OT: More on charsets

On Sat, 19 Jan 2002, Danny Wier wrote:

> From: "Chris Palmer" <cecibean@...>
>
> > From nicole's signature:
> >
> > > shmuli atae muhnkia-jiqek qelek nimmekel-Luddiga bl? apor-flauschige
> > > blaue Affen-t?difai k?wainG MANgKIWi-m?ndos ?zoros faffalos-khami
> > > zhaftami nuri xhan-jas?nni j??i jakih???i-Moncaithe gorma
> > > cl?mhacha-Monhyey ngonul hweyaru ryehyumeru-muncaidhean gorma
> > > molach-jhachtaraadkimyo-monos peludos azules-pushistye sinie
> > > obe&#380;iany-z??nesfersaup s?l?raup b?fparaup-k&#281;dzierzawe [...]
> >
> > Does this look right in anyone's mailer? It has >7b characters (which
> > got converted to ?s) in it and some HTML character entities, but my
> > mailer (Mutt 1.3.23i, dubiously compiled on OpenBSD) seems to have been
> > told it was ASCII. It's a shame it gets so mangled in transit, because I
> > want to see everyone's nifty orthographies and transliterations.
>
> The characters are vowels with macrons, which are all found in the Latin
> Extended-A range (that's from 256 dec/100 hex on) and are used for Latvian.
> The best Latin-1 alternative would be to use circumflexes (but y-circumflex
> is out). For plain ASCII, you'd have to use for a-macron something like a^,
> a:, a` or A (if you don't mind case-sensitive transliterations).
No, the ?s are ISO 8859-1 characters. I don't know what the HTML entities
are (they come through already as HTML entities for me in nicole's posts).
In nicole's posts, they ISO 8859-1 chars come out properly but they became
 question marks in Chris's post. (For the record, I'm using Pine 4.33 on
Linux in a real console, not a second-rate xterm or anything. (Pirate free
for three days and counting! (Linux as main OS for longer than that,
though.)))

If you care enough, in `t?difai k?wainG MANgKIWi', both ?s are o-acute.
It's pronounced /T3\_Lri_Lf{_H hO_Lm{i_L mA_HNhi_L/. It's in Et'abnanni
('a=a acute /rA_Lmn{_Ln/). And yes, it's a lot easier to master it's
orthography than English's.

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