Re: rhotics (was: Hellenish oddities)
From: | DOUGLAS KOLLER <laokou@...> |
Date: | Thursday, November 16, 2000, 22:13 |
From: "BP Jonsson"
> I wonder how widespread lgs with more than one "r" phoneme are? Spanish
is
> famous for its r/rr, Portuguese and Occitan have r/R, but beyond
> that? What about people's conlangs? Wanic has a slew of laterals but
only
> one rhotic.
Géarthnuns has the Spanish r (the letter "rín"), which I believe is written
in Kirshenbaum as /*/; it also has what I've described as a very breathy,
voiceless French r, sort of like the "r" in "encre" or "battre" in allegro
speech, but only syllable initial in Géarthnuns (I think /X/?)(the letter
"rhamas"). However, having recently heard a story on Radio Netherlands via
National Public Radio about menopause counselors in the Netherlands (they
used the word, "overgang" or "overgrang"?, "transition" now expanded in
meaning to "menopause"), I am now wondering if Dutch "g" or "gr" might be a
better description, 'cause it sounded damn close. Anyway, the Géarthçins
perceive "rhamas" as the "cousin" of "vaukh", another letter like the German
"ch" in "Bach" (/x/), which is only syllable final and non-rhoticized.
Kou