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Re: rhotics (was: Hellenish oddities)

From:DOUGLAS KOLLER <laokou@...>
Date:Thursday, November 16, 2000, 22:13
From: "BP Jonsson"

> I wonder how widespread lgs with more than one "r" phoneme are? Spanish
> famous for its r/rr, Portuguese and Occitan have r/R, but beyond > that? What about people's conlangs? Wanic has a slew of laterals but
> one rhotic.
Géarthnuns has the Spanish r (the letter "rín"), which I believe is written in Kirshenbaum as /*/; it also has what I've described as a very breathy, voiceless French r, sort of like the "r" in "encre" or "battre" in allegro speech, but only syllable initial in Géarthnuns (I think /X/?)(the letter "rhamas"). However, having recently heard a story on Radio Netherlands via National Public Radio about menopause counselors in the Netherlands (they used the word, "overgang" or "overgrang"?, "transition" now expanded in meaning to "menopause"), I am now wondering if Dutch "g" or "gr" might be a better description, 'cause it sounded damn close. Anyway, the Géarthçins perceive "rhamas" as the "cousin" of "vaukh", another letter like the German "ch" in "Bach" (/x/), which is only syllable final and non-rhoticized. Kou