Re: Vowel question, suggestion?

From: "Jesse Bangs" <jaspax@...>
>> This arises historically as <ai> becomes <oi> /OI/.  When there's
>> original <aio> /AIU/ it would become /OIy/, which is impossible
>> for me to pronounce, so I called it <öy>.
>
>If the "normal" outcome would be [OIy], it seems logical to me that the
>[I] and [y] would collapse, giving [OY].  That's the same thing as [OI],
>but with lip rounding maintained throughout the diphthong.
>
>When I try to say [OY], I keep accidentally fronting the back vowel, so
>that would give, ah, [öY], where [ö] is my cheap substitute for rounded
>[E] since I can't remember the real symbol in SAMPA.  That's another
>possibility.
Rounded [E] is [9].  (Hence its easy forgettability.)

I think I will go with "[9H] ( = [öY]) or [9j]" and leave the roundedness of
the glide unspecified, unless an especially spectacular suggestion comes
along.


    *Muke!