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Re: Vowel question, suggestion?

From:Muke Tever <alrivera@...>
Date:Monday, August 6, 2001, 9:22
From: "Roger Mills" <romilly@...>
>I'm a little behind on SAMPA, but I'll assume your {ö} is mid front rounded >(like German) and {y} is high front rounded.
(well, actually, <öy> was meant to be orthographical, not SAMPAtic...)
>In that case it would be >likely for speakers to keep the lips rounded throughout. If a vowel >followed, you'd have the high fr.rounded glide of French "nuit", [H] IIRC. >Alternatively, the high glide might be unrounded; then you'd end up with >something a little easier, similar to Dutch {ui} [öI] as in "huis", "muis" >'house, mouse' (it's < Germanic *u: ). Interestingly, this is usually >Anglicized to /aj/, even by the many folks of Dutch descent up here around >Holland Mich. Names like Nieuwenhuis, Vandersluis are [n(j)uw@nhajs] >[vænd@rslais]. (The Rempts are cringing, I'm sure.....)
Yeah, I know a Kloosterhuis [klu:str=hajs]. I read (somewhere..) that Dutch <ui> was [VH], but I can see how either one would end up as [aj] translated to English phonemes. *Muke!

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