Re: Vowel question, suggestion?
From: | Muke Tever <alrivera@...> |
Date: | Monday, August 6, 2001, 9:22 |
From: "Roger Mills" <romilly@...>
>I'm a little behind on SAMPA, but I'll assume your {ö} is mid front rounded
>(like German) and {y} is high front rounded.
(well, actually, <öy> was meant to be orthographical, not SAMPAtic...)
>In that case it would be
>likely for speakers to keep the lips rounded throughout. If a vowel
>followed, you'd have the high fr.rounded glide of French "nuit", [H] IIRC.
>Alternatively, the high glide might be unrounded; then you'd end up with
>something a little easier, similar to Dutch {ui} [öI] as in "huis", "muis"
>'house, mouse' (it's < Germanic *u: ). Interestingly, this is usually
>Anglicized to /aj/, even by the many folks of Dutch descent up here around
>Holland Mich. Names like Nieuwenhuis, Vandersluis are [n(j)uw@nhajs]
>[vænd@rslais]. (The Rempts are cringing, I'm sure.....)
Yeah, I know a Kloosterhuis [klu:str=hajs]. I read (somewhere..) that Dutch
<ui> was [VH], but I can see how either one would end up as [aj] translated
to English phonemes.
*Muke!
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