Re: Fricative Nasal Aspiration (was: Re: IPA griefs)

On Wed, Oct 25, 2000 at 08:18:08PM +0200, Kristian Jensen wrote:
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> If you guys want to acheive an orally aspirated fricative, then what you
[snip suggestions]

Hmm, interesting. I tried pronouncing an aspirated [s], and it came out
like an [s] followed immediately by a [h]. It didn't sound very much
different, at least to my ears (probably because [s] and [s<h>] are
allophonic to me), but I did the "paper test" and the paper flapped, so it
*was* an aspirated fricative. :-)

What I did was simply to pronounce an [s] but give it an extra puff of air
toward the end of the frication (almost like pronouncing "s-hha", where
the "hh" is almost like an ejective. For me, this works with aspirating
[f], [s], [C] and [T]. [x] seems to sound a bit too much like [h].

I tried to aspirate the voiced labial fricative as well, but [b<h>a] came
out like [b@ha] instead (or like a *loud* [ba] if I try to get rid of the
gap between the [b] and the [h]). I know someone said that voiced
fricatives technically don't exist, but IE apparently has letters for them
so I couldn't resist trying. :-)


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