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Re: Fluid-S pivot in Old Albic

From:Jörg Rhiemeier <joerg_rhiemeier@...>
Date:Tuesday, August 9, 2005, 21:13
Hallo!

# 1 wrote:

> With the most recent change in the Vbazi grammar (more recent that the post > in which I described it), it seems simple to represent the two meanings of > "The man threw the ball and fell" > > That change is that the verb can no longer inflect for the dative argument > as principal argument and the dative argument always goes after the verb. > That way, the verb can only agree for the object if there is one or the > subject if not. > > So, the verbs agrees in person, number, and case(Nom/Acc) with its > absolutive argument.
So an intransitive verb has a nominative marker, and a transitive verb has an accusative marker?
> This way it is easy to distinct "The man threw the ball and [the man] fell" > and "The child threw the ball and [the ball] fell" by using nominative or > accusative on "to fall" > > jaljl jehi jylnjyzbeinjai ai jylmizdjai > jal -jl jehi jyl -njyzbein-jai ai jyl -mizd-jai > ball-ACC Man PAST-throw 3rd/S/ACC and PAST-fall-3rd/S/ACC > The man threw the ball and (the ball) fell > > jaljl jehi jylnjyzbeinjai yi jylmizdja > jal -jl jehi jyl -njyzbein-jai yi jyl -mizd-ja > ball-ACC Man PAST-throw 3rd/S/ACC and PAST-fall-3rd/S/NOM > The man threw the ball and (the man) fell
You seem to like the letter |j|, or whatever phoneme you use it to represent ;-)
> (The conjonction "and" between two verbs is not the same depending if the > two verbs have the same ending or not, a third one is used when it is > between two nouns.) > > It would be the only possibility for an intransitive verb to take an > accusative ending, it depends of the first mark used in the sentence. > > Does this work?
I see no reason why it shouldn't, though I haven't seen anything like that before. Very original! Greetings, Jörg.

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