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Re: Láadan

From:taliesin the storyteller <taliesin@...>
Date:Saturday, November 30, 2002, 21:28
* Roger Mills said on 2002-11-30 19:50:04 +0100
> Peter Clark wrote: > > On Friday 29 November 2002 02:17 pm, Doug Dee wrote: > > > Do you think any of the words Elgin created for Laadan filled a > > > significant gap? > > > (If you don't have the grammar, there's a sample of Laadan words at > > > > > > http://www.sfwa.org/members/elgin/nativetongue/laadansampler.html > > > > > I printed out a copy and handed it to my wife, asking her to > > comment on them. > > > niná the one responsible > > Yes > We have "culprit"
Hmm we could discuss the definition of "responsible" here I guess, and a "culprit" is generally responsible for something negative.
> > ninálh the one to blame > > Yes > "Scapegoat?"
Neither "scapegoat" nor "culprit" are "the facts and only the facts"
> > radodelh non-interface, a situation which has not one single point > > in common on which to base interaction, often used of personal > > relationships > > ? > How can there be a relationship if there are no points in common?
One might still want a relationship even if the only thing in common is both/all parties are living humans. Beware the definition of "not a single thing in common".
> > ralith to deliberately refrain from thinking about something, to wall off > > in one's mind by deliberate act > > Yes > "Denial"
Connotation: the person doing it is stupid and should face what he/she is fearing/hiding Sometimes pushing something out of your mind is the only thing standing between yourself and lunacy/suicide. Take modern civilization, for example...
> > shol absence-of-pain > > Yes! > "analgesia" or "anaesthesia"
Which is usually thought of as artificially induced. The pain might not be physical, and the absence might be unexpected. Not covered by your examples.
> > wonewith to be socially dyslexic; uncomprehending of the social signals of > > others > > Yes! > "Clueless" Kash cakondrop 'deliberately obtuse' come close....
I think I see SHE's point, many of your examples/answers aren't exactly value-neutral or a polite thing to say; the connotations are "somewhat" negative... It's the eternal hunt for new, non-degrading euphemisms I guess. t.