Peter Clark wrote:
>On Friday 29 November 2002 02:17 pm, Doug Dee wrote:
>> Do you think any of the words Elgin created for Laadan filled a
significant
comment on them.
>Her comments are below the word; "No" indicates that she doesn't feel the
>word is needed or important, "Yes" indicates that it might be needed or
>important, "Yes!" indicates her feeling that it would be very nice to have
>such a lexical item. "-" means "neither here nor there, no opinion." I
>removed words that already have English counterparts.
A few comments, not all serious...... Frankly I was not impressed with
Elgins's list, but I suppose I'm not qualified, as a man (and a gay one--
the ultimate in Male Chauvinism??).....
(many snips)
>ashon love for one who is not related by blood but is heart-kin
> No
What's wrong with plain old "love" or "affection"
>doóledosh pain or loss which comes as a relief because it brings to an end
the
>anticipation of its arrival
> Yes!
Probably useful, but "relief" seems to cover it
>
>doólelasholan alone at last, after putting up with tiresome people
> Yes!
OK!
>éeme love for one neither liked nor respected
> Yes
Could someone give an example? Surely love must include either likeing or
respect.
>
>honáal the hours between midnight and dawn
> No (She must have been an insomniac.)
Maybe, but you'd need 2 words depending on POV. 1) the quietest, most
productive hours, provided you don't have to be up-n-at-em at 6AM, or 2) the
dark night of the soul
>
>lewidan to be pregnant for the first time
> -
Perhaps some natlang would distinguish this. Some Indonesian langs. have
words for "female animal that has never borne young"
>
>lirini an achievement that seems small to other, but means a lot to the
>achiever
> Yes!
Yes, but isn't it rather deprecatory (is that a word?)--
Case 1) A. This is my lirini!
B) (thinks) Hmm, you reinvented the wheel......
Case 2) A. What a nice lirini for you (thinks: nyah, so what?)
>
>niná the one responsible
> Yes
We have "culprit"
>
>ninálh the one to blame
> Yes
"Scapegoat?"
>radíidin non-holiday, a time allegedly a holiday but actually so much a
burden
>because of work and preparations that it's a dreaded occasion; especially
>when there are too many guests and none of them help
> -
"Christmas or Thanksgiving dinner"........depending on POV
>
>radodelh non-interface, a situation which has not one single point in
common
>on which to base interaction, often used of personal relationships
> ?
How can there be a relationship if there are no points in common?
>
>rahéena non-heart-sibling; one so entirely incompatible with another that
>there is no hope of ever achieving any kind of understanding or anything
more
>than a truce, and no hope of ever making such a one understand why (does
not
>mean "enemy")
> Yes
Many gays would put many straight folks in this category......
>
>rahom to non-teach; to deliberately fill students' minds with empty data or
>false information
> No
The Internet.
>
>ralith to deliberately refrain from thinking about something, to wall if
off
>in one's mind by deliberate act
> Yes
"Denial"
>
>shol absence-of-pain
> Yes!
"analgesia" or "anaesthesia"
>
>wonewith to be socially dyslexic; uncomprehending of the social signals of
>others
> Yes!
"Clueless" Kash cakondrop 'deliberately obtuse' come close....
>wóo evidence morpheme indicating the speaker/writer's total lack of
knowlege
>as to the validity of what is said or written
> N
"I got this off a website....."
>---
>She did not feel that any of them filled a significant gap, but that she
>could communicate the feelings or situations behind the terms with little
>problem.
Agreed.