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Re: Láadan

From:Muke Tever <mktvr@...>
Date:Sunday, December 1, 2002, 3:03
From: "Roger Mills" <romilly@...>
> >ashon love for one who is not related by blood but is heart-kin > > No > > What's wrong with plain old "love" or "affection"
That's like saying "why do you need 'cerulean' when you have 'blue'"...
> >éeme love for one neither liked nor respected > > Yes > > Could someone give an example? Surely love must include either likeing or > respect.
Beh ? Since when? Easiest example I can think of is love for family. Or maybe God's love for sinners.
> >honáal the hours between midnight and dawn > > No (She must have been an insomniac.) > Maybe, but you'd need 2 words depending on POV. 1) the quietest, most > productive hours, provided you don't have to be up-n-at-em at 6AM, or 2) the > dark night of the soul
The long dark tea-time of the soul hits me about 4 am Sunday morning...
> >lewidan to be pregnant for the first time > > - > Perhaps some natlang would distinguish this. Some Indonesian langs. have > words for "female animal that has never borne young"
The English word is "primigravida" (a woman that is pregnant for the first time).
> >lirini an achievement that seems small to other, but means a lot to the > >achiever > > Yes! > Yes, but isn't it rather deprecatory (is that a word?)-- > Case 1) A. This is my lirini! > B) (thinks) Hmm, you reinvented the wheel...... > Case 2) A. What a nice lirini for you (thinks: nyah, so what?)
I think the intended use is more along the lines of "I know it doesn't matter to you, but this is something I have to do"... You probably wouldn't say the first case, although the second case might occur.
> >niná the one responsible > > Yes > We have "culprit"
The culprit is the one whose fault it is.
> >ninálh the one to blame > > Yes > > "Scapegoat?"
I think "scapegoat" has the added implication that the person didn't do what they're being blamed for.
> >radodelh non-interface, a situation which has not one single point in > >common on which to base interaction, often used of personal relationships > > ? > How can there be a relationship if there are no points in common?
Sounds like most of mine.
> >ralith to deliberately refrain from thinking about something, to wall if > >off in one's mind by deliberate act > > Yes > > "Denial"
Hmm, "denial" here means to believe or claim something true is not true, as either a coping mechanism or a response to accusation. Probably closer would be "avoid" though that can refer to mental or physical things.
> >shol absence-of-pain > > Yes! > "analgesia" or "anaesthesia"
That seems more like the suppresion of pain? (or feeling entirely, for anaesthesia)... and I dont think either would apply to mental pain.
> >wonewith to be socially dyslexic; uncomprehending of the social signals of > >others > > Yes! > > "Clueless" Kash cakondrop 'deliberately obtuse' come close....
No, because I think one can manage to be competent, while still unable to interact properly with others... *Muke! -- http://www.frath.net/