Quoting Benct Philip Jonsson <bpj@...>:
> Andreas Johansson wrote:
>
> > You need not excuse yourself. My problem isn't with you, but with the
> > traditional phonemic representation of Swedish, which I think is in urgent
> need
> > of updating. Maybe there *are* updated ones in use - I've not read any
> Swedish
> > phonology published recently.
>
> The newest phonetics course book uses /x\/ for 'sj' and /s\/ for
> 'tj', which overall seems reasonable.
I'm happy to hear that!
> All we need now is to get
> the IPA to include the proper [8\] symbol; it's no fun to have to
> use cludges like ÊšÌ (U+029A U+031D) or u\_O. Properly it could be
> [2_O] but that looks even worse when you already have [2].
Well, they gave us hooktop heng, so I suppose there is some hope of that.
Then we'd just wait for the next IPA-breaking sound-change in Swedish ... :)
Andreas