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Re: /x/ and 'inter-Germanic' (was: Intergermansk)

From:Andreas Johansson <andjo@...>
Date:Monday, January 31, 2005, 19:18
Quoting "Pascal A. Kramm" <pkramm@...>:

> On Mon, 31 Jan 2005 11:55:33 +0100, Benct Philip Jonsson <bpj@...> > wrote: > > >The newest phonetics course book uses /x\/ for 'sj' and /s\/ for > >'tj', which overall seems reasonable. All we need now is to get > >the IPA to include the proper [8\] symbol; it's no fun to have to > >use cludges like Ê&#65533;Ì&#65533; (U+029A U+031D) or u\_O. Properly it > could be > >[2_O] but that looks even worse when you already have [2]. > > Care to explain what sounds you mean by /x\/ and [8\]? > They're not on the Cxs table...
[x\] should be on the CXS chart, since it's part of X-SAMPA. It corresponds to IPA hooktop heng, and denotes the simultaneous articulation of [S] and [x]. [8\] is mine and BP's homecooked convention to ASCIIify "turned m with short middle leg", a sign that's used in Swedish phonetics to denote a labialized [2]. The sound might more clunkily and analytically be denoted as [2_w]. It may be noted that my lect substitutes plain old boring [u\] for it. Andreas