Re: /x/ and 'inter-Germanic' (was: Intergermansk)
From: | Andreas Johansson <andjo@...> |
Date: | Monday, January 31, 2005, 19:18 |
Quoting "Pascal A. Kramm" <pkramm@...>:
> On Mon, 31 Jan 2005 11:55:33 +0100, Benct Philip Jonsson <bpj@...>
> wrote:
>
> >The newest phonetics course book uses /x\/ for 'sj' and /s\/ for
> >'tj', which overall seems reasonable. All we need now is to get
> >the IPA to include the proper [8\] symbol; it's no fun to have to
> >use cludges like �� (U+029A U+031D) or u\_O. Properly it
> could be
> >[2_O] but that looks even worse when you already have [2].
>
> Care to explain what sounds you mean by /x\/ and [8\]?
> They're not on the Cxs table...
[x\] should be on the CXS chart, since it's part of X-SAMPA. It corresponds to
IPA hooktop heng, and denotes the simultaneous articulation of [S] and [x].
[8\] is mine and BP's homecooked convention to ASCIIify "turned m with short
middle leg", a sign that's used in Swedish phonetics to denote a labialized
[2]. The sound might more clunkily and analytically be denoted as [2_w]. It may
be noted that my lect substitutes plain old boring [u\] for it.
Andreas