Re: /x/ and 'inter-Germanic' (was: Intergermansk)

On Mon, 31 Jan 2005 19:56:53 +0100, Andreas Johansson <andjo@...> wrote:

>Quoting "Pascal A. Kramm" <pkramm@...>:
>
>> Care to explain what sounds you mean by /x\/ and [8\]?
>> They're not on the Cxs table...
>
>[x\] should be on the CXS chart, since it's part of X-SAMPA. It corresponds to
>IPA hooktop heng, and denotes the simultaneous articulation of [S] and [x].
Ah yes, now I see it - didn't look there. However, I can't imagine how that
would sound... "simultaneous"?

>[8\] is mine and BP's homecooked convention to ASCIIify "turned m with short
>middle leg", a sign that's used in Swedish phonetics to denote a labialized
>[2]. The sound might more clunkily and analytically be denoted as [2_w]. It may
>be noted that my lect substitutes plain old boring [u\] for it.
[2] would be a simple ö, no problems there -  but what does "labialized"
mean? It's generally used for consonants, but with a vowel?

--
Pascal A. Kramm, author of:
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Choton: http://www.choton.org
Ichwara Prana: http://www.choton.org/ichwara/
Skälansk: http://www.choton.org/sk/
Advanced English: http://www.choton.org/ae/

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