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Re: Subject/Object participles

From:caeruleancentaur <caeruleancentaur@...>
Date:Sunday, September 7, 2008, 22:35
> > Logan Kearsley <chronosurfer@...> wrote: > > > ...nail as the object of 'hammer'. As far as I can tell, present > > participles in English are always subject-oriented, while past > > participles are always object oriented, and altering that requires > > circumlocutions like "the nail which is being hammered" for 'nail' > > to be the object in the present tense. But one could just as well > > have a system that marks the tense/aspect/etc. of a participle > > separately from whether the thing it modifies is a subject or > > object. So, what languages do that, and how? And is it done in > > natural languages, or just conlangs?
>Jim Henry <jimhenry1973@...> wrote: > > Esperanto: > > la kuranta viro = the running man > la martelata najlo = the being-hammered nail
Only mood is marked on the verb in Senjecas. Tense is indicated by a preceding particle. tserantu mhirus = the running man per tserantu mhirus = the man who was running Passivity is indicated periphrastically using the verb 'mola,' become and the patient participle. molanto tematho gwozdos = being hammered nail per molanto tematho gwozdos = the nail that was being hammered. Charlie