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Re: new(?) phoneme discovered

From:Paul Bennett <paul-bennett@...>
Date:Friday, March 10, 2006, 19:53
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>From: "Mark J. Reed" <markjreed@...>
>On 3/10/06, Paul Bennett <paul-bennett@...> wrote: >> What, no Phoneme Nazi replies? > >We prefer the term "Phoneme Phascist". :) > >> *fumes* It's only a phoneme if it occurs contrastively in a known language!!!! GRAR! > >True. This may be a new phone, but not a new phoneme. At least not >until someone incorporates it as such in their conlang. :)
Interesting thought: Is there a terminological distinction possible and/or needed between natphonemes and conphonemes? I'm sure several of us have odd phones that do not occur (or at least do not occur contrastively) in any known natlang. For instance, I have toyed with a click-like epiglottal implosive more than once, and I had one phonology sketch with two degrees of creaky voice. Actually, this begs the question: How many other weird and wonderful sounds can be found among our conlangs? For bonus points: What's your proudest moment in phonology / phonological system design? Paul

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