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Re: CHAT: Support/Oppression of Conlanging

From:Christophe Grandsire <christophe.grandsire@...>
Date:Wednesday, June 19, 2002, 19:13
En réponse à JS Bangs <jaspax@...>:

> > Fascist _n_: > > One of a body of Italian nationalists, which was organized in 1919 to > oppose communism in Italy, and, as the partito nazionale fascista, > under > the leadership of Benito Mussolini (1883-1945), controlled that > country > from 1922 to 1943; also transf. applied to the members of similar > organizations in other countries. Also, a person having Fascist > sympathies > or convictions; (loosely) a person of right-wing authoritarian views. > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > > Which corresponds with: > > Fascism _n_: > > The principles and organization of Fascists. Also, loosely, any form > of > right-wing authoritarianism. > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >
Interesting, both times the term "loosely" is used.
> So in English, at least, the proper definition of Fascism does indeed > correlate to a right-leaning form of authoritarianism or > totalitarianism, > which may be contrasted with communism. >
OK. Although as said someone, Nazism in some ways could not really be called extreme-right (it was not called National Socialism for nothing).
> If the French dictionaries actually say differently, then we may be > dealing with a legitimate linguistic difference. As far as that goes, > I'm > willing to agree to disagree, though I maintain that it's more useful > to > not make fascist and totalitarian synonyms. >
If you've read my previous mail, you've seen that I don't. I never pretended to equal totalitarianism with fascism and even said that in the mail you were replying to. Christophe. http://rainbow.conlang.free.fr Take your life as a movie: do not let anybody else play the leading role.

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Thomas R. Wier <trwier@...>