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From:Herman Miller <hmiller@...>
Date:Sunday, August 18, 2002, 3:04
On Sat, 17 Aug 2002 15:44:07 -0700, Arthaey Angosii <arthaey@...>

>>From > >"Kirshenbaum is popular among hobbyists because it tries to stay close to >the physical representation of ASCII, or else have a decent mnemonic, for >most things. SAMPA seems more popular among professional linguists for >reasons which elude me." > >>From what I saw in the recent archives at Yahoo, it looks like you guys >belong to the SAMPA camp. Why do you prefer it over Kirshenbaum's scheme?
X-SAMPA can represent all the characters of the IPA, including the diacritics. I often use sounds without a simple Kirshenbaum equivalent: specifically, the lateral fricatives and the labiodental approximant, and I occasionally need the laminal diacritic. When I was using the Kirshenbaum alphabet, I'd arbitrarily use the extra symbols (+, =, $, %) that are explicitly provided for this purpose, but they require explanation each time I use them. X-SAMPA is clunky, but at least it's got all the necessary sounds. (Plain vanilla SAMPA without the X- is unusable, since too many sounds are missing.) Better alternatives like CPA (Jörg Rhiemeier's alphabet) are available, but not as well known as X-SAMPA. -- languages of Azir------> ---<>--- hmiller (Herman Miller) "If all Printers were determin'd not to print any email password: thing till they were sure it would offend no body, \ "Subject: teamouse" / there would be very little printed." -Ben Franklin


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